Eutidemo
- Lingua:
- inglese
- Traduzione:
- Benjamin Jowett
- Stato:
- Opera completa
- Autorialità:
- Scritta dall'autore
- Stato del testo:
- Nessun rumore di scansione rilevato (misura automatica su tutto il testo, non verificata a mano)
- Estensione:
- ~15.800 parole · 75 passi
Cita quest'opera
- APAPlatone. (n.d.). Euthydemus [Eutidemo] (Benjamin Jowett, Trans.). Digital reproduction: SigPhi. https://sigphiai.com/it/works/plato/euthydemus
- MLAPlatone. Euthydemus [Eutidemo]. Translated by Benjamin Jowett. Digital reproduction, SigPhi, https://sigphiai.com/it/works/plato/euthydemus.
- ChicagoPlatone. Euthydemus [Eutidemo]. Translated by Benjamin Jowett. Digital reproduction, SigPhi. https://sigphiai.com/it/works/plato/euthydemus.
Riferimento dell'edizione che SigPhi riproduce: SigPhi ne è la riproduzione digitale, non l'editore. L'anno dell'edizione non figura nei metadati (da qui «n.d.») e il traduttore compare solo quando è noto.
Di che cosa tratta
Due fratelli sofisti danno spettacolo di argomenti capziosi e mettono all'angolo il loro interlocutore per pura equivocazione verbale. Socrate vi contrappone una conversazione vera.
Contesto e storia
Il dialogo più divertente di Platone e anche il più tecnico: i sofismi in scena sono casi autentici di ambiguità logica, e alcuni compaiono ancora nei manuali. La comicità ha un compito: rendere visibile la differenza fra vincere una discussione e capire qualcosa.
Contesto editoriale, non una fonte citabile: a differenza dei passi dell'opera, questi dati non si possono verificare sul corpus.
And they are the teachers of those who learn--the grammar-master and the lyre-master used to teach you and other boys; and you were the learners? Yes. And when you were learners you did not as yet know the things which you were learning? No, he said. And were you wise then? No, indeed, he said. But if you were not wise you were unlearned? Certainly. You then, learning what you did not know, were unlearned when you were learning? The youth nodded assent. Then the unlearned learn, and not the wise, Cleinias, as you imagine. At these words the followers of Euthydemus, of whom I spoke, like a chorus at the bidding of their director, laughed and cheered. Then, before the youth had time to recover his breath, Dionysodorus cleverly took him in hand, and said: Yes, Cleinias; and when the grammar-master dictated anything to you, were they the wise boys or the unlearned who learned the dictation? The wise, replied Cleinias. Then after all the wise are the learners and not the unlearned; and your last answer to Euthydemus was wrong. Then once more the admirers of the two heroes, in an ecstasy at their wisdom, gave vent to another peal of laughter, while the rest of us were silent and amazed. Euthydemus, observing this, determined to persevere with the youth; and in order to heighten the effect went on asking another similar question, which might be compared to the double turn of an expert dancer. Do those, said he, who learn, learn what they know, or what they do not know? Again Dionysodorus whispered to me: That, Socrates, is just another of the same sort. Good heavens, I said; and your last question was so good! Like all our other questions, Socrates, he replied--inevitable. I see the reason, I said, why you are in such reputation among your disciples. Meanwhile Cleinias had answered Euthydemus that those who learned learn what they do not know; and he put him through a series of questions the same as before. Do you not know letters?…